Whitehound wrote:Besides the OP having confused weak with dumb is the problem not the dominance shown by the Goons, but the amount of crouching and kneeling done by all the non-Goons. Whatever people think of Goons, there is something equally wrong with the rest. At least from what can be seen on the forums.

And in game and Ill be the first to admit that.
However, three points to consider.
1.) Most highseccers wont work together outside their own corp. Theyve been well trained to "trust no one" so that kinda kills any hope of them ever massing together to attack Goons. Plus, Id bet there are more than a few Goon alt corps in that mass (given all the high sec alt hauler corps they reference to having) so yeah.
2.) Most high seccers (short on Incursion groups and weekend warriors) have never BEEN in a fleet or operated in ANY group in EVE. They wouldnt even know how.
3.) theres no way at all to coordinate a fight on the size of trying to take all of high sec and attack anywhere.
So, it would be all of high sec in their shiny faction BSes they run missions with (cause how many high sec capitol pilots are there and how many HAVE caps give we cant have them IN high sec) that invade 0.0 to be meat for the grinder of the well organized (funny huh?), extremely well funded (what a trillion a day?), trained PVP combat pilots if the Goon alliance.
FIRST, there are no high seccers going to run in in their "shiny faction BSes they run missions/incursions with" because rule numer one of EVE
"dont fly what you cant afford to lose"
Oh hey guys, by the way, THATS what causes that "risk averse" behavior youre always crying about. Unless youre a Incursion runner or a lvl 4 mega blitzer, you arent losting much and affording it easily.
Those high seccers are mostly gonna be showing up in small ships.
"But those are the types of ships Goon used to kill BoB"
Yeah so theyre well versed in how to COUNTER THEM TOO
I dont ever see ppl that realize that when someone says that in this conversation.
No, the only way you see a change in 0.0 or the state of high sec is is CCP desides to break the sandbox, which they WILL DO if enough people leave and they start taking a hit to their bottom line.